[2manycars4me]

Typical for GM. We are getting Supercharger access in the Spring, didn't reference which Spring. It will come with the OTA's, part of GM greatest lies, Supercharger access is coming, OTA are coming soon, we are going all in EV,

 

[Carac]

The use of “GM continues to work good faith” implies Tesla isn’t. It’s a very intentional use of that phrase.

 

[azbill]

GM is not the only manufacturer that has been delayed by Tesla. All of these were promised "2024". And even Ford and Rivian have each received only about 10k adapters so far from Tesla.

 

[IdentifiesAsAHummerEUV]

The adapter information went live on GMs site again. Release date seems to be 9/18/24 based off the promo code NACSSHIP

accessories.chevrolet.com/wcs/resources/store/11201/productSearch/nacs-dc-adapter-85090442

accessories.chevrolet.com/wcs/resources/store/11201/productSearch/nacs-dc-adapter-85806539?brand=Chevrolet&catalogId=3074457345616678718

 

[azbill]

At least they are not going "all in" on just Tesla. This new charger deployment is on top of the Pilot/Flying J one.

https://insideevs.com/news/733461/gm-evgo-400-ev-fast/

 

[azbill]

The adapter information went live on GMs site again. Release date seems to be 9/18/24 based off the promo code NACSSHIP

accessories.chevrolet.com/wcs/resources/store/11201/productSearch/nacs-dc-adapter-85090442

accessories.chevrolet.com/wcs/resources/store/11201/productSearch/nacs-dc-adapter-85806539?brand=Chevrolet&catalogId=3074457345616678718

I wonder if they are only recommending the Lectron adapter for Chevy Bolts. The Lectrons are known to overheat and shut off at high amperage.

Under the Lectron P/N it has this:

"Portable – conveniently carry or store in your glove box, center console, etc.",
"Measures 5.2 L x 2.5 W x 3.9 H inches",
"Rated Current: 300 Amps @ 35°C (95°F)",
"Boost Current: 500 Amps for 10 minutes",
"Some MY19 and MY20 Chevrolet Bolt EVs require a software update to ensure a successful charging experience. Please schedule a service appointment with your Chevrolet Dealer to get the latest software update",
"WARNING: Use of charge cord adapters may cause electrical overheating, ...

But that software update is not mentioned for the Tesla supplied adapter, and it refers to the limits of the station:

"Portable – conveniently carry or store in your glove box, center console, etc.",
"Measures 5.2 L x 2.5 W x 3.9 H inches",
"Rated Current: 300 Amps @ 35°C (95°F)",
"Boost Current: 500 Amps for 10 minutes",
"Charging times vary based on the power and current available from the charging station (actual range may vary based on several factors, including ambient temperature, terrain, battery age, temperature and condition, loading, and how you use and maintain your vehicle)",
"WARNING: Use of charge cord adapters may cause electrical overheating, ...

The Bolts only pull 55kw (125A), so they will never overstress the adapters, or run into limitations of the chargers. All the Ultium vehicles can pull up to 500A, even the Equinox. GM has delivered about 150k bolts in the US, so getting Lectron to support those cars makes sense. That leaves the Tesla adapters, which send the temp to the charger, for the Ultiums.

 

[IdentifiesAsAHummerEUV]

I wonder if they are only recommending the Lectron adapter for Chevy Bolts. The Lectrons are known to overheat and shut off at high amperage.

Under the Lectron P/N it has this:

"Portable – conveniently carry or store in your glove box, center console, etc.",
"Measures 5.2 L x 2.5 W x 3.9 H inches",
"Rated Current: 300 Amps @ 35°C (95°F)",
"Boost Current: 500 Amps for 10 minutes",
"Some MY19 and MY20 Chevrolet Bolt EVs require a software update to ensure a successful charging experience. Please schedule a service appointment with your Chevrolet Dealer to get the latest software update",
"WARNING: Use of charge cord adapters may cause electrical overheating, ...

But that software update is not mentioned for the Tesla supplied adapter, and it refers to the limits of the station:

"Portable – conveniently carry or store in your glove box, center console, etc.",
"Measures 5.2 L x 2.5 W x 3.9 H inches",
"Rated Current: 300 Amps @ 35°C (95°F)",
"Boost Current: 500 Amps for 10 minutes",
"Charging times vary based on the power and current available from the charging station (actual range may vary based on several factors, including ambient temperature, terrain, battery age, temperature and condition, loading, and how you use and maintain your vehicle)",
"WARNING: Use of charge cord adapters may cause electrical overheating, ...

The Bolts only pull 55kw (125A), so they will never overstress the adapters, or run into limitations of the chargers. All the Ultium vehicles can pull up to 500A, even the Equinox. GM has delivered about 150k bolts in the US, so getting Lectron to support those cars makes sense. That leaves the Tesla adapters, which send the temp to the charger, for the Ultiums.

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Can you throw you vin at the end of this and see if it directs you to the lectron part number or tesla OEM part number?
GM did get a killer deal on the lectron adapter, cant say numbers but they are very much marking it up.

 

[azbill]

Site Maintenance

Can you throw you vin at the end of this and see if it directs you to the lectron part number or tesla OEM part number?
GM did get a killer deal on the lectron adapter, cant say numbers but they are very much marking it up.

It will not take a GMC VIN

 

[IdentifiesAsAHummerEUV]

It will not take a GMC VIN

weird, it will take my vin on the chevy site and gmc site

Site Maintenance

try this

 

[Dark-Fx]

Site Maintenance

Can you throw you vin at the end of this and see if it directs you to the lectron part number or tesla OEM part number?
GM did get a killer deal on the lectron adapter, cant say numbers but they are very much marking it up.

85090442 for my sierra. Page only displays this:

My app still lacks the ability to sign up for Tesla charging. Thought about trying to recompile it with the flag forced on to see if it breaks things.

 

[IdentifiesAsAHummerEUV]

85090442 for my sierra. Page only displays this:

View attachment 6272

My app still lacks the ability to sign up for Tesla charging. Thought about trying to recompile it with the flag forced on to see if it breaks things.

There is a flag in the app for emsp whitelisted accounts which enables charging, I used to have access to a few of these accounts and was able to charge at a magic dock site. You might be able to change it and recomplie but it would not comunicate with onstar servers to activate it. Superchargers shouild be enabled on the 18th based off adapter ordering promo codes.

 

[azbill]

weird, it will take my vin on the chevy site and gmc site

Site Maintenance

try this

That works but it still does not provide any link to the adapter.

 

[Carac]

Are Lectrons overheating? I haven’t seen anything but that they work the same, temp wise as the Tesla…which is to say they derate pretty quickly on Rivians if the ambient temp is high outside.

 

[azbill]

Are Lectrons overheating? I haven’t seen anything but that they work the same, temp wise as the Tesla…which is to say they derate pretty quickly on Rivians if the ambient temp is high outside.

People on Rivian forums and Ford forums have had them cause charging faults due to excessive heat. They switch off the control pilot with a temperature switch in the adapter. The manual says to let them cool for 30 minutes.

 

[Dark-Fx]

Superchargers shouild be enabled on the 18th based off adapter ordering promo codes.

Promo code used to say "Offer valid 6/18/2024–12/31/2024" when I was looking last week, so I'm not really anticipating that being entirely accurate.

 

[Nebula1701]

Already got notification from a Cadillac dealer news about the Adaptors is coming next week.

 

[azbill]

Promo code used to say "Offer valid 6/18/2024–12/31/2024" when I was looking last week, so I'm not really anticipating that being entirely accurate.

Flip the 6 upside down, then you are all good.

 

[azbill]

Already got notification from a Cadillac dealer news about the Adaptors is coming next week.

We have had many rumors and false starts with this, we shall see what happens. I am heading to Colorado on the 18th and will take one of my adapters with me. There are a couple of Supercharger sites that I could make use of on my trip. Certainly not depending on them though.

I will being using EVGO (Pilot/FJ), and EA on the way. Then in Durango they have some 200kw ChargePoint's, I will need to use those every day while 4 wheeling.

 

[IdentifiesAsAHummerEUV]

I have a method for ordering adapters for anyone who may want to try, requires microsoft edge.

Does not show a ETA but should help get your adapter quicker if you do not want to buy a 3rd party adaper from a2z/lectron(lectron is the supplier for one of GMs adapters though)

 

[Carac]

As someone with three 3rd party NACS adapters (the original A2Z, the updated Lectron, and the new A2Z), I might suggest holding off on purchasing one until it actually happens. It's about 50/50 in my head as to whether GM ever reaches "a deal" with Tesla who seem to be intentionally slow rolling the process. I bought one for my wife's Kia and one for me and who knows when either of us will be able to use them. Hopefully soon. But "soon" has a different definition when it comes to EV ownership in my experience.