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Tom E-Tron

Discussion Starter · Oct 2, 2021

I have been thinking, before the initial test drive reports come out, what do we expect? Will the Hummer EV match or exceed GM's promises?

0-60 in around 3 seconds?

350+ miles of EPA range?

How will it drive on road?

How will it drive off road?

Will the interior be well screwed together (no squeaks and rattles)?

Software, will all the cool display animations and features work smoothly?

EV powertrain, will the motors work smoothly all the time (no cogging)?

Will GM sneak in their cheaply made components on the interior (turn signal stalk)?

Overall, will the Hummer EV match or exceed expectations?

When will GM deliver the first batch of HummerEV's to customers?

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Shaved Ice

· #2 · Oct 2, 2021

My opinions:

0-60 in around 3 seconds? Yes

350+ miles of EPA range? When driving like a grandma with no cargo.

How will it drive on road? Great

How will it drive off road? Great for a HEAVY and WIDE vehicle.

Will the interior be well screwed together (no squeaks and rattles)? Initially. Most GM interiors develop interior squeaks over time.

Software, will all the cool display animations and features work smoothly? Hopefully. I care more about working smoothly.

EV powertrain, will the motors work smoothly all the time (no cogging)? Yes.

Will GM sneak in their cheaply made components on the interior (turn signal stalk)? I don’t think so.

Overall, will the Hummer EV match or exceed expectations? Both, depending on the feature(s).

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Tom E-Tron

Discussion Starter · #3 · Oct 2, 2021

Shaved Ice said:
My opinions:

0-60 in around 3 seconds? Yes

350+ miles of EPA range? When driving like a grandma with no cargo.

How will it drive on road? Great

How will it drive off road? Great for a HEAVY and WIDE vehicle.

Will the interior be well screwed together (no squeaks and rattles)? Initially. Most GM interiors develop interior squeaks over time.

Software, will all the cool display animations and features work smoothly? Hopefully. I care more about working smoothly.

EV powertrain, will the motors work smoothly all the time (no cogging)? Yes.

Will GM sneak in their cheaply made components on the interior (turn signal stalk)? I don’t think so.

Overall, will the Hummer EV match or exceed expectations? Both, depending on the feature(s).

I think those are fair opinions I tend to agree...

INgolfer

· #4 · Oct 2, 2021

Looking forward to finding all of this out soon as well. I have very high hopes, but I also have some skepticism just based on how heavy it is. They really have to nail it for it to drive/ride well but I believe they can pull it off. @Aloppen knows how to dial in a vehicle so I don’t think they’d be rolling it out if it didn’t meet his high expectations.

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Tom E-Tron

Discussion Starter · #5 · Oct 2, 2021

INgolfer said:
Looking forward to finding all of this out soon as well. I have very high hopes, but I also have some skepticism just based on how heavy it is. They really have to nail it for it to drive/ride well but I believe they can pull it off. @Aloppen knows how to dial in a vehicle so I don’t think they’d be rolling it out if it didn’t meet his high expectations.

I agree, within GM, @Aloppen is da man, but the proof is in the pudding, just a couple more days to wait...

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MunneY

· #6 · Oct 2, 2021

I’m hopeful but skeptical

the only thing I’m truly concerned about is the range.
I also wish someone at GM would tell them to stop putting hard seats in everything. Take a page from the high trim fords and give us some plush seats

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INgolfer

· #7 · Oct 2, 2021

MunneY said:
I’m hopeful but skeptical

the only thing I’m truly concerned about is the range.
I also wish someone at GM would tell them to stop putting hard seats in everything. Take a page from the high trim fords and give us some plush seats

I didn’t mind my Sierra Denali seats, however, I bought a TRX to toy around with til the 3X comes out and the seats are WAY more comfy

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Tom E-Tron

Discussion Starter · #8 · Oct 2, 2021

INgolfer said:
I didn’t mind my Sierra Denali seats, however, I bought a TRX to toy around with til the 3X comes out and the seats are WAY more comfy

What year is your pickup? I have a 2020 HD Denali, and the seats suck... The thing I like the least about the vehicle. Hard plastic lower dash that looks like the cheapest ever made 2nd, and the turn signal stalk that is the same one that comes in their cheapest product drive me up a wall. I would think on $80K trucks they could afford $10 for better plastics, $20 for a better turn signal stalk, and $100 for better seat padding, heck my old 2011 Denali HD had WAY more comfortable seats. Whoever designed the seats (and the managers that approved it) in the T1 pickups should be fired on the spot, for such a huge program there is NO excuse for industry worst seat padding. The seats are too narrow as well, and I am not a fatty. If they are buying them from Lear or Magna, they should fire them too...

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INgolfer

· #9 · Oct 2, 2021

I had an 18. They were definitely better than my previous F150 seats. Nothing compared to my Ram though, and that could be said for the entire interior. I’m not usually a Chrysler guy other than a Wrangler Rubicon I owned. Just wanted to try the TRX for the power and I’m enjoying it, but it definitely makes me desire a little more from the Hummer interior. However, EV interiors in general are pretty plain and I feel Hummer has a nicer interior than Tesla and Rivian when it comes to the dash and infotainment. The seats will be the big question.

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Tom E-Tron

Discussion Starter · #10 · Oct 2, 2021

INgolfer said:
I had an 18. They were definitely better than my previous F150 seats. Nothing compared to my Ram though, and that could be said for the entire interior. I’m not usually a Chrysler guy other than a Wrangler Rubicon I owned. Just wanted to try the TRX for the power and I’m enjoying it, but it definitely makes me desire a little more from the Hummer interior. However, EV interiors in general are pretty plain and I feel Hummer has a nicer interior than Tesla and Rivian when it comes to the dash and infotainment. The seats will be the big question.

Oh, the 18 is the old body style, not the T1, When they switched to the T1, they did something to the seats, maybe @BigJonEV can chime in on what he sees and hears at the dealership on this? The GM truck blogs are full of seat complaints

I agree the Hummer interior is in some ways nicer then Tesla, but not nicer than Rivian, Rivian has a modern luxury design that is just more efficient, but the Hummer has more buttons, and things to touch, now we need to see if those buttons and switch gear are premium, or cheap? I think the center shifter is dumb, but on the Hummer that is part of the design esthetic, but limits setting a laptop in the center, and also just uses space unnecessarily. To give my final, one is better than the other I have to sit in them and drive them, see what feels better. On the Rivian, where is the trailer brakes actuator? Some rumor is its a paddle behind the steering wheel, which would be awesome (similar to class 8 trucks), but that is not confirmed yet.

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Shaved Ice

· #11 · Oct 2, 2021

The TRX interiors are very nice, especially with the red piping.

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INgolfer

· #12 · Oct 2, 2021

Shaved Ice said:
The TRX interiors are very nice, especially with the red piping.

Went with the blue exterior so I wasn’t a fan of the red interior stitching combo with that. I do love some nice contrast stitching and have had red stitching on black interior on multiple vehicles before so it will be interesting to see if there are any different interior options on the Hummer once we get to the 3x and beyond.

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Tom E-Tron

Discussion Starter · #13 · Oct 2, 2021

Shaved Ice said:
The TRX interiors are very nice, especially with the red piping.

Ram in general has nice interiors, IMO best in the industry. TRX is a nice looking package, I see one in my neighborhood a few times a week.

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INgolfer

· #14 · Oct 2, 2021

Tom E-Tron said:
Ram in general has nice interiors, IMO best in the industry. TRX is a nice looking package, I see one in my neighborhood a few times a week.

Did you just say I have a nice package?

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MattF

· #15 · Oct 3, 2021

Tom E-Tron said:
I agree, within GM, @Aloppen is da man, but the proof is in the pudding, just a couple more days to wait...

Looks like the reviews “open up” on Monday at 5 am Central time - at least that’s what I assume from the upcoming video from TFL:

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INgolfer

· #16 · Oct 3, 2021

Oh snap! It’s about to get interesting

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Tom E-Tron

Discussion Starter · #17 · Oct 3, 2021

MattF said:
Looks like the reviews “open up” on Monday at 5 am Central time - at least that’s what I assume from the upcoming video from TFL:

Yeah... Now guys, don't be late to work tomorrow due to watching HummerEV reviews.

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skiborsy

· #18 · Oct 3, 2021

MattF said:
Looks like the reviews “open up” on Monday at 5 am Central time - at least that’s what I assume from the upcoming video from TFL:

Interesting it’s on a wet track, not an unprepped trail like the Rivian introduction!

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Tom E-Tron

Discussion Starter · #19 · Oct 3, 2021

skiborsy said:
Interesting it’s on a wet track, not an unprepped trail like the Rivian introduction!

Good point, this looks like its on the Milford test track, also the truck is a prototype, I wonder if this is a GM stock photo used at the teaser? Looking at last weeks weather, the only serious rain was yesterday, could they sell be doing press drives and got into some rain is another possibility? I would hope the testers are driving captured fleet production model trucks with finished software. The Milford proving ground does have an off road area, with big hills, so GM might have set up something off road to test at Milford as this could do double duty this week for GM's investor event where HummerEV test drives are supposed to be part of the show.

GM would never do a high risk press drive like what Rivian did... Start ups can do this, big corporations no way in heck, too much risk. I mean Rivian had 2 reviewers get sick, several flat tires, GM would not take that kind of risk, more like what Ford is doing with Bronco on a controlled and graded off road track.

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skiborsy

· #20 · Oct 3, 2021

Tom E-Tron said:
Good point, this looks like its on the Milford test track, also the truck is a prototype, I wonder if this is a GM stock photo used at the teaser? Looking at last weeks weather, the only serious rain was yesterday, could they sell be doing press drives and got into some rain is another possibility? I would hope the testers are driving captured fleet production model trucks with finished software. The Milford proving ground does have an off road area, with big hills, so GM might have set up something off road to test at Milford as this could do double duty this week for GM's investor event where HummerEV test drives are supposed to be part of the show.

GM would never do a high risk press drive like what Rivian did... Start ups can do this, big corporations no way in heck, too much risk. I mean Rivian had 2 reviewers get sick, several flat tires, GM would not take that kind of risk, more like what Ford is doing with Bronco on a controlled and graded off road track.

Plus the Hummer’s too wide to fit on the gulley portion of the trail they took the Rivian up (if my Raptor/TRX experience is any indicator). Speaking of which, one of the biggest questions to me is how they make 9k lbs handle well, on- or off-road, given that weight is the biggest detractor in the TRX (6,700 lbs) vs. Raptor 5,800 lbs) debate. Obviously, those two are very different from the Hummer other than width.

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