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I have seen a few things in the TFL video,

interior noise is weird (supposed to sound like an ice engine?)

The suspension Hobby Horses

Camera views do not fill screen, l software?

8000 lbs? How much does it weigh? GM still not giving us payload and towing?

Frunk opening mechanism much better than the show truck

GM nannies too involved in the drive, I like Rivian's event much better

WTF spins the tires at launch, wow... Brutal launch power

106 MPH top speed (Rivian's going to leave it in the dust)

Overall I feel a bit disappointed, mostly because of the structure of GM's event which does not allow for real testing.
 

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I have seen a few things in the TFL video,

interior noise is weird (supposed to sound like an ice engine?)

The suspension Hobby Horses

Camera views do not fill screen, l software?

8000 lbs? How much does it weigh? GM still not giving us payload and towing?

Frunk opening mechanism much better than the show truck

GM nannies too involved in the drive, I like Rivian's event much better

WTF spins the tires at launch, wow... Brutal launch power

106 MPH top speed (Rivian's going to leave it in the dust)

Overall I feel a bit disappointed, mostly because of the structure of GM's event which does not allow for real testing.

InsideEV, drive was interesting, 90 mph of a gravel road... Ya, better have the GM engineer drive for that one... :)

 

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I agree with you E Tron, still too much of GM controlling the narrative of these reviews.

I also noticed the cameras not taking up the whole screen and also the noise inside the vehicle. Sometimes things can sound a little weird in a camera that don’t necessarily sound weird in person so I’m hoping that’s the case with the Hummer.

On the InsideEVs review they did mention at one point the artificial noise that the is created in the hummer, and then the engineer turned it to normal mode and it went away, so maybe it all just depends on mode.

overall a little disappointed in the lack of new info. Really the only thing new was we got to see the software working, andI felt like the reviewers couldn’t give honest feedback because they were sitting in a car with an engineer. No now spec info either as far as range or towing which was disappointment
 

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I agree with you E Tron, still too much of GM controlling the narrative of these reviews.

I also noticed the cameras not taking up the whole screen and also the noise inside the vehicle. Sometimes things can sound a little weird in a camera that don’t necessarily sound weird in person so I’m hoping that’s the case with the Hummer.

On the InsideEVs review they did mention at one point the artificial noise that the is created in the hummer, and then the engineer turned it to normal mode and it went away, so maybe it all just depends on mode.

overall a little disappointed in the lack of new info. Really the only thing new was we got to see the software working, andI felt like the reviewers couldn’t give honest feedback because they were sitting in a car with an engineer. No now spec info either as far as range or towing which was disappointment
I never get tired of WTF launches.

 

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I absolutely cannot stand "chaperoned" test drives.

I get they are trying to show off all the features but I don't want to listen to an engineer
In some ways the chaperoned test drives are good in that I do to think Tom at InsideEV would have gone 90 mph on the gravel road if he was driving. These engineers know how to take the vehicle right to the edge of its capability, smoothly. Overall I agree with you though, there was a lack of real testing. I hope GM gives one to the EV sites to fully test soon, range at 70 mph, and charging curve are important tests, it clear GM does not understand marketing an EV yet, but overall the vehicle looks like GM is delivering their promises.
 

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One of the reviews I read said the software lagged but referenced the fact that the truck overall wasn’t a production truck and the software wasn’t final. Hopefully these issues get addressed in final form.
 

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One of the reviews I read said the software lagged but referenced the fact that the truck overall wasn’t a production truck and the software wasn’t final. Hopefully these issues get addressed in final form.
Ya, I saw that in all the videos, and was one of my biggest concerns going in. Software is hard, and traditional OEM's are not good at it.
 

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Sometimes things can sound a little weird in a camera that don’t necessarily sound weird in person so I’m hoping that’s the case with the Hummer.

On the InsideEVs review they did mention at one point the artificial noise that the is created in the hummer, and then the engineer turned it to normal mode and it went away, so maybe it all just depends on mode.
My Mach E has some different artificial sounds, and every video/audio I hear for the Mach E, is very different than the real sound I get in mine. For some reason these camera microphones amplify the audio a lot. They also seem to amplify road noise.
 

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Watching the GM-Trucks review and at about 23 minutes or so they are going at a higher rate of speed and the road/motor noise seems loud. I really hope it’s just the cameras pulling that noise a little more. He even asked a couple times during the video about the noise of the motors almost like it was loud.

On a positive note, the guy doing the review says he has an edition 1 and he didn’t seem hesitant at all about going forward with it. If anything he seems even more excited about his reservation.

I am happy we had the chance to see some of these videos but now more than anything I am just anxious for the edition 1 holders to get theirs so that we can get some real world feedback.
 

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One of my favorite points mentioned was combining the two high performance aspects of the vehicle. You see WTF mode on road and the offroad mode on a trail. One of the engineers pointed out how amazing it is to go rip a trail in MOAB, rock crawl then hit the road covered in mud and launch 0-60 in 3-ish seconds. He said what other vehicle can really do that. You have the TRX which is fast but not nearly as setup for offroad. It will be great to get out of the engineer world and into real life situations.
 

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One of my favorite points mentioned was combining the two high performance aspects of the vehicle. You see WTF mode on road and the offroad mode on a trail. One of the engineers pointed out how amazing it is to go rip a trail in MOAB, rock crawl then hit the road covered in mud and launch 0-60 in 3-ish seconds. He said what other vehicle can really do that. You have the TRX which is fast but not nearly as setup for offroad. It will be great to get out of the engineer world and into real life situations.
Ya, the Rivian is about the only other vehicle that can compete off road and on.

On the HummerEV I think the launch of the WTF mode is awesome, the fact it torques the drivetrain before launch so there is no slack when all that power hits, and then it launches hard, clearly as the traction limits. Imagine throwing on some lighter weight but more grippy tires and wheels, wow!

I am not worried about the NVH at this point GM is good at dealing with NVH, my current Duramax is really quiet on the freeway (Instrument measured), and that is a diesel.
 

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I'm happy with that small amount of wheel chirp. My Bolt has the low rolling resistance tires on there from the factory and it's like a I can't take off or hit a corner at all without chirping. At least having these off road tires will give some traction for launches.

I too am not worried about NVH. I'm sure a lot of the noises are all tied to hearing the electric motor or the pedestrian alert noises. All of those are higher frequency and can be heard inside my car at any given time. I'm sure the camera is picking those up like crazy.
 

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Ya, the Rivian is about the only other vehicle that can compete off road and on.

On the HummerEV I think the launch of the WTF mode is awesome, the fact it torques the drivetrain before launch so there is no slack when all that power hits, and then it launches hard, clearly as the traction limits. Imagine throwing on some lighter weight but more grippy tires and wheels, wow!

I am not worried about the NVH at this point GM is good at dealing with NVH, my current Duramax is really quiet on the freeway (Instrument measured), and that is a diesel.
I'm just saying, whoever records the first on and off-road race between the R1T and Hummer will get a lot of views on YouTube. With a good chunk of those views coming from me. :LOL:
 

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Did no one else notice the weird wrinkles on the hood in the Raiti's rides review while showing off the front end. Looked like it had some dents or body work already, hoping thats from testing and not from frunk usage.
Also, his knock on the front armor sounded a little thin and tin'y. Guess well see how the armor holds up through real world usage. Engineer didnt seem to concerned about it in the rock crawl portion.
 

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Did no one else notice the weird wrinkles on the hood in the Raiti's rides review while showing off the front end. Looked like it had some dents or body work already, hoping thats from testing and not from frunk usage.
Also, his knock on the front armor sounded a little thin and tin'y. Guess well see how the armor holds up through real world usage. Engineer didnt seem to concerned about it in the rock crawl portion.
Going back to look now
 

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I'm happy with that small amount of wheel chirp. My Bolt has the low rolling resistance tires on there from the factory and it's like a I can't take off or hit a corner at all without chirping. At least having these off road tires will give some traction for launches.

I too am not worried about NVH. I'm sure a lot of the noises are all tied to hearing the electric motor or the pedestrian alert noises. All of those are higher frequency and can be heard inside my car at any given time. I'm sure the camera is picking those up like crazy.
Excuse my ignorance, but what is NHV?
 

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I only noticed it when they were going over the rocks but that is because they are in Extract Mode”. Or do you mean when it launches in WTF mode?
It is more from power to coast to brake, there is a lot of body transfer, compared to like the Rivian which stays flatter. When you have more body movement it is not only less comfortable, but transfers weight around the vehicle, which in some modes is less than optimal. I did not see any reviews where cornering was tested, but staying flat in corners under power would be optimal.

All that being said, the Hummer EV suspension does seem very compliant over bumps, and dips in the road.
 
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