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So just curious, with ED1 reservation holders still not having their units in their driveways and the Hummer site still saying Fall 2021 for release, what is everyone’s best guess for when the 3X will go in to production? My guess is we won’t see the first 3X’s in driveways until spring/early summer 2023. Anyone hearing anything different?
 

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So just curious, with ED1 reservation holders still not having their units in their driveways and the Hummer site still saying Fall 2021 for release, what is everyone’s best guess for when the 3X will go in to production? My guess is we won’t see the first 3X’s in driveways until spring/early summer 2023. Anyone hearing anything different?
I have not seen any update from GM on ETA's so I assume they are on schedule. The schedule all comes down to battery production, and when Lordstown comes online, which should be next quarter. Right now they are building the battery packs by hand, it will be slow, but I would expect late this year the battery packs will be flowing nicely, and EV 3X will launch as expected.

GM has been delivering Hummers for about a month, one one in a customers hand in December, but about 25 built, and now we have several dealers have posted photos of their first ones arriving, lets reevaluate in May, and see if production and deliveries get some momentum before assuming GM is off their schedule, especially when all the word inside GM is this is the schedule they always intended.
 

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I have not seen any update from GM on ETA's so I assume they are on schedule. The schedule all comes down to battery production, and when Lordstown comes online, which should be next quarter. Right now they are building the battery packs by hand, it will be slow, but I would expect late this year the battery packs will be flowing nicely, and EV 3X will launch as expected.

GM has been delivering Hummers for about a month, one one in a customers hand in December, but about 25 built, and now we have several dealers have posted photos of their first ones arriving, lets reevaluate in May, and see if production and deliveries get some momentum before assuming GM is off their schedule, especially when all the word inside GM is this is the schedule they always intended.
Several dealers ? I only seen one so far can you direct me to the others
 

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So just curious, with ED1 reservation holders still not having their units in their driveways and the Hummer site still saying Fall 2021 for release, what is everyone’s best guess for when the 3X will go in to production? My guess is we won’t see the first 3X’s in driveways until spring/early summer 2023. Anyone hearing anything different?
I am just assuming that I probably won't hear anything about mine until fall 2023 (I hope sooner) ....but I am OK with waiting. I don't really drive my personal truck very often (once every couple of months right now) BUT, if I had a Nice New Hummer then maybe the wife and daughter might like to go out in it.... Right now the 17 1/2 year old Duramax (2005) isn't nice enough for them to really want to ride in... And it does ride a little rough...
 

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I am just assuming that I probably won't hear anything about mine until fall 2023 (I hope sooner) ....but I am OK with waiting. I don't really drive my personal truck very often (once every couple of months right now) BUT, if I had a Nice New Hummer then maybe the wife and daughter might like to go out in it.... Right now the 17 1/2 year old Duramax (2005) isn't nice enough for them to really want to ride in... And it does ride a little rough...
Fall of 23? Do you have the 2X reserved? If I found out I was going to have to wait til the fall of 23 for my 3X I’d probably just cancel and get an Escalade. Have a high volume dealer here in Indiana willing to do supplier pricing and about a 4-6 month order out time.
 

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It doesn't help that competition has delayed delivery of the Cybertruck so not as much reason now for GM to mass produce this in 2022. And if things escalate in Ukraine that will likely impact battery production. I assume everyone not waiting for the Edition 1 is waiting for the 3X like me but. I do not see deliveries of 3X starting until 2023, which is fine for me because I would like to see the 350 or greater battery range.

For anyone with a 2X or 2 reservation my question is why would you want to wait that long for specs that will likely be less competitive by the time the vehicle arrives. Or is it that you feel as technology evolves this will allow for options to add to the vehicle that were not available with Edition 1.
 

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For anyone with a 2X or 2 reservation my question is why would you want to wait that long for specs that will likely be less competitive by the time the vehicle arrives. Or is it that you feel as technology evolves this will allow for options to add to the vehicle that were not available with Edition 1.
I am not interested in competing with my truck. I just need a big truck that will fulfill my needs. The 2x does that. The 3x just adds things that I don't need or want, such as 0 to 60 times.
 

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I am not interested in competing with my truck. I just need a big truck that will fulfill my needs. The 2x does that. The 3x just adds things that I don't need or want, such as 0 to 60 times.
@seanrarey I should have been more specific, when I stated "competitive" it wasn't in regards to being able to get your Ricky Bobby Talladega racing on with your Hummer. Just that by the time the 2X and 2 ship in 2024 or later there will already be multiple trucks offering the same or better with less curb weight, greater towing capacity, range, and at a lower price. If you simply do not want torque vectoring I could maybe understand reserving the later trim levels or you are hopeful like me that new technology/options (350+ battery range, retractable ramp for motorcycle loading/unloading, etc.) will automatically come as an option to those that wait.
 

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WTF mode is optional on the 3X.
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@seanrarey I should have been more specific, when I stated "competitive" it wasn't in regards to being able to get your Ricky Bobby Talladega racing on with your Hummer. Just that by the time the 2X and 2 ship in 2024 or later there will already be multiple trucks offering the same or better with less curb weight, greater towing capacity, range, and at a lower price. If you simply do not want torque vectoring I could maybe understand reserving the later trim levels or you are hopeful like me that new technology/options (350+ battery range, retractable ramp for motorcycle loading/unloading, etc.) will automatically come as an option to those that wait.
Yeah, I get that. I have paid reservations in on the Cybertruck, the Lightning, the Chevy as well as the Hummer. The only truck I did not put in a reservation for was the Rivian. That is only because I don't have faith they can get me a truck before one of the other four.

My daily driver at this point is a Tesla. It puts insane power to the ground using only two motors. The ford, the chevy, and the Tesla that I ordered also use only two motors, and power numbers and capability will exceed what I need for my purposes. Going through all the specs on the Hummer, I could find no reason that I needed three motors. In fact, there are things on that model that I really don't want I would just remove, like the bigger wheels. I want bigger tires, smaller wheels, more sidewall.
 

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@seanrarey I think it is cool as a Tesla owner you are open to driving an EV from another manufacturer. I assumed most Tesla owners will wait for the CT before considering anything else. I currently own a Chevy Bolt EV. Even with one motor powering the front wheels the acceleration is great compared to an ICE. I test drove a Model 3 performance and one of my neighbors owns a Plaid Model S. I am looking forward to driving a vehicle that can tow my motorcycle, beat most sports cars, and allow me to bring the vehicle to a complete stop without touching the brake. I don't say these things as a GM fanboy because I am still planning to reserve the Tesla roadster. The only thing that would prevent this is if GM decides to produce a corvette equivalent that matches or exceeds the roadster's performance.
 

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@seanrarey I think it is cool as a Tesla owner you are open to driving an EV from another manufacturer. I assumed most Tesla owners will wait for the CT before considering anything else. I currently own a Chevy Bolt EV. Even with one motor powering the front wheels the acceleration is great compared to an ICE. I test drove a Model 3 performance and one of my neighbors owns a Plaid Model S. I am looking forward to driving a vehicle that can tow my motorcycle, beat most sports cars, and allow me to bring the vehicle to a complete stop without touching the brake. I don't say these things as a GM fanboy because I am still planning to reserve the Tesla roadster. The only thing that would prevent this is if GM decides to produce a corvette equivalent that matches or exceeds the roadster's performance.
I feel like we hijacked this thread and took it in a different direction, but what the hay, we are all just sitting around waiting for scraps of information and hope from the manufacturers anyway, right?

As for Tesla and what I drive, I have been building and driving hotrod EVs for over 20 years. I was very involved in opposing GM during the latter part of the EV1 debacle. After that, I turned my hotrod shop into one of the biggest EV shops in the country (Grants Pass Electric Vehicles), building and selling EVs all over the US.

Fast forward, we now have some fine options, and I argue that there is little reason to purchase a gas car today. You drive a Bolt, a fantastic car (and you are going to get a brand new pack). I need a truck, as you can see in the photo below, so I am driving a Y, as it it rated for 3500lbs towing. A side note, my wife loves it so much that I am probably not going to be able to get rid of it when the truck gets here.

Which truck? I am committed to clicking the "Order" button the the first brand that offers me one. Tesla builds a great car, so I am sure the truck will be good. The styling is polarizing, but it's fine.

The Silverado E is the most compelling of the offerings. Longer range, longer bed, better payload.

The Lightning is a relatively simple conversion of the F150, which is a proven platform. I would drive one no problem. I just need a truck, and I'll be dammed if I will ever buy another gas/diesel.

With these pieces in place, I have a spreadsheet that is tracking production (as well as lack there of), my approximate place in line, and projections to give me clues as to which vehicle is going to be sitting beside the Tesla. At the moment, my bet is on the Hummer. The line is actually running, and the truck is expensive. Both of those bode well for the Hummer getting to me first... Unless the 4680 comes online hard this year (which is what is really holding Tesla up, but they wont publicly admit it), then my first-hour CT reservation might win.
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My first post here. I have an EV3X reservation, and Cybertruck and Silverado EV reservations. I didn't reserve the Lightning because I currently own an F150 Limited and the Lightning resembles my current truck just a bit too much. New truck to me means something not resembling my 6 year old truck. I didn’t reserve Rivian because I didn’t like the idea of a $1,000 reservation deposit. $100 is no big deal for a place in line but $1,000 for a reservation is just too much In my book.

On the last Tesla earnings call, Elon stated “hopefully” they will get Cybertruck started into production by sometime in 2023. I see the Cybertruck and Hummer EV as the most likely two direct competitors in the truck EV market. Most people who want a traditional pickup truck in an EV model will be happy with Chevy or Ford’s offerings. I personally like the Silverado EV stylings better than Ford’s.

I believe it will be to GM’s advantage to crank these Hummer EVs out as quickly as possible because many people (including me) have reservations on several different EVs and will likely take whichever one produces a product first. Most people keep their new trucks for 5-10 years, so getting product out late might be a disadvantage when trying to capitalize on preorders. And most likely Cybertruck in the highest trim model will have around a $100K price tag. Even the Silverado EV in top trim is over $100K. I don't see Tesla getting around those economics.

I think once GM gets their battery situation and factory staffing under control, we’ll see Plant Zero pick up pace quickly. All first model productions start off slow in factories. That’s just the way it is. GM knows how to get product moving when they have all their parts connected. From reading many different sources, it seems GM will only produce 1200-1500 ED1s. If true, then they should be building EV3Xs by summertime this year. My bet is that Hummer EV will be the first one available for me to convert my preorder into an order.
 

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Yeah, I get that. I have paid reservations in on the Cybertruck, the Lightning, the Chevy as well as the Hummer. The only truck I did not put in a reservation for was the Rivian. That is only because I don't have faith they can get me a truck before one of the other four.

My daily driver at this point is a Tesla. It puts insane power to the ground using only two motors. The ford, the chevy, and the Tesla that I ordered also use only two motors, and power numbers and capability will exceed what I need for my purposes. Going through all the specs on the Hummer, I could find no reason that I needed three motors. In fact, there are things on that model that I really don't want I would just remove, like the bigger wheels. I want bigger tires, smaller wheels, more sidewall.
@seanrarey I was going to ask which Tesla you are driving but you answered that. With the weight difference between the Model Y and GMC Hummver EV E1/3X/2X/2, do you still feel like two motors will offer you the same experience being almost twice the weight. I haven't done enough research on the type of motors being used on the Ultium platform but maybe you can provide some insight. I asked EV concierge about getting a test drive at the Detroit factory but currently this is not available. It is a sad reality but it looks like the future of car buying is online reservations with a waitlist, maybe an end to dealerships, and a plethora of crossovers replacing most vehicle types (I have yet to see a coupe version of the corvette in GM's EV plan). I blame my generation of millennials for most of this.
 

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@seanrarey With the weight difference between the Model Y and GMC Hummver EV E1/3X/2X/2, do you still feel like two motors will offer you the same experience being almost twice the weight.
Probably not, but a similar experience is not what I am after. It should have more then I need; and that is, well, more then I need. The Y is so fast it is truly stupid. I really don't need that at my age lol.
 

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My first post here. I have an EV3X reservation, and Cybertruck and Silverado EV reservations. I didn't reserve the Lightning because I currently own an F150 Limited and the Lightning resembles my current truck just a bit too much. New truck to me means something not resembling my 6 year old truck. I didn’t reserve Rivian because I didn’t like the idea of a $1,000 reservation deposit. $100 is no big deal for a place in line but $1,000 for a reservation is just too much In my book.

On the last Tesla earnings call, Elon stated “hopefully” they will get Cybertruck started into production by sometime in 2023. I see the Cybertruck and Hummer EV as the most likely two direct competitors in the truck EV market. Most people who want a traditional pickup truck in an EV model will be happy with Chevy or Ford’s offerings. I personally like the Silverado EV stylings better than Ford’s.

I believe it will be to GM’s advantage to crank these Hummer EVs out as quickly as possible because many people (including me) have reservations on several different EVs and will likely take whichever one produces a product first. Most people keep their new trucks for 5-10 years, so getting product out late might be a disadvantage when trying to capitalize on preorders. And most likely Cybertruck in the highest trim model will have around a $100K price tag. Even the Silverado EV in top trim is over $100K. I don't see Tesla getting around those economics.

I think once GM gets their battery situation and factory staffing under control, we’ll see Plant Zero pick up pace quickly. All first model productions start off slow in factories. That’s just the way it is. GM knows how to get product moving when they have all their parts connected. From reading many different sources, it seems GM will only produce 1200-1500 ED1s. If true, then they should be building EV3Xs by summertime this year. My bet is that Hummer EV will be the first one available for me to convert my preorder into an order.
Welcome to the forum @Duplantisjj! I think that's fair to say the Hummer will be the first one coming to you, especially with the Cybertruck delays. Would the Hummer still be your first choice if the Cybertruck and Silverado were available at the same time?
 

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As much as I have eagerly been looking forward to when the 3X truck would be available I just decided not to pass up an opportunity to get an Edition 1 SUV. My dealer I have my 3X reservation through has the SUV coming for the showroom once released, although their dealer agreement requires them to hold it for 6 months (fingers crossed maybe that will change). While I do like the look of the truck a little better, I know the SUV will hold its value better being an Edition 1. My buddy at the dealer was even way cool about it and said "if you wanna sell it and basically pay for another Hummer I'm happy to sell you another one."
 
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