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I found this quite interesting, for those technically interested in EV design and tech, take a watch...
Yea, I saw that earlier. He even gets into the math with voltage, etc.I found this quite interesting, for those technically interested in EV design and tech, take a watch...
Not really, Tesla had cells under the back seat of Model S long ago, when Bolt was only a dream.They copied the Bolt battery pack, in that they stacked the battery modules under the rear seat.
Ya, Celestiq is going to be interesting, it needs to get close the Lucid range and charging, otherwise just an embarrassment to GM engineering. If it comes out with less than 400 mile range and 1000HP, don't bother...Yea, I saw that earlier. He even gets into the math with voltage, etc.
I didn’t realize they were double stacking below the back seats either. Will be interesting to see how GM does the Celestiq - looks like they will some horizontally loaded while other areas will have it the vertical way. Don’t know if that car will have any double stacked like the trucks.
believe it when I see it... Don't forget Lucid does 520 mile range with off the shelf LG battery cells, using Hummer for reference 1st gen Ultium is large and heavy. Magic second gen has not been produced, yet, but what does Lucid do with next gen cells? and Tesla, GM likely still behind.I can't help but wonder if the celestiq might use gen2 Ultium cells. Original statements were 500-600 miles and first product mid-decade. Celestiq being a 2025 model would fit that bill, and small enough production run that they could still hand assemble the packs.
Ultium's biggest thing is cost and modularity. They should be able to ramp up extremely quickly once they get the cell plants online. Gen1 doesn't seem to have much of a density or weight advantage compared to what they were doing in the Bolt. Charging and power output, yes, but that's only one part of the equation.believe it when I see it... Don't forget Lucid does 520 mile range with off the shelf LG battery cells, using Hummer for reference 1st gen Ultium is large and heavy. Magic second gen has not been produced, yet, but what does Lucid do with next gen cells? and Tesla, GM likely still behind.
In the Hummer you can hide the weight and poor density, but in a luxury car, which will be expected to have good performance (acceleration, braking, and handling) every gram will matter. Tesla has amazing performance in the latest S, but forgot the interior (and half the steering wheel), Lucid gives you amazing performance, Range, Charging, and a pretty sweet interior. Celestiq will be substantially more expensive, likely $250K plus, but will be a market belly flop if it cannot match the Lucid in performance, and EV statistics, the extra money being for extra features and technologies.Ultium's biggest thing is cost and modularity. They should be able to ramp up extremely quickly once they get the cell plants online. Gen1 doesn't seem to have much of a density or weight advantage compared to what they were doing in the Bolt. Charging and power output, yes, but that's only one part of the equation.