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I'm not sure how much I can say or show but have reason to believe the curb weight will be 9046 pounds with a GVWR of 10,400 pounds. Might have received an update today about specs.
 

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I'm not sure how much I can say or show but have reason to believe the curb weight will be 9046 pounds with a GVWR of 10,400 pounds. Might have received an update today about specs.
What? 9K lbs and only 1354 pounds of payload? No way! I could go over that payload with a couple fat friends in the cab, and a garbage can or 2 in the back... You got the wrong info... I also have an update that the Hummer EV does not share the 8 lug HD wheel bolt pattern, it's the smaller diameter 8 lug, meaning its lighter than the HD vehicles which are 6500 to 8500 lbs curb weights.
 

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What? 9K lbs and only 1354 pounds of payload? No way! I could go over that payload with a couple fat friends in the cab, and a garbage can or 2 in the back... You got the wrong info...
That's what I'm showing right now on the ordering guide. I thought the same thing. My brothers and I could barely go anywhere.
 

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What? 9K lbs and only 1354 pounds of payload? No way! I could go over that payload with a couple fat friends in the cab, and a garbage can or 2 in the back... You got the wrong info... I also have an update that the Hummer EV does not share the 8 lug HD wheel bolt pattern, it's the smaller diameter 8 lug, meaning its lighter than the HD vehicles which are 6500 to 8500 lbs curb weights.
I can only share what I'm seeing. It might not be the final numbers yet, but is what it is showing on the order guide under specs.
 

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I can only share what I'm seeing. It might not be the final numbers yet, but is what it is showing on the order guide under specs.
I just ran some quick calculations, 9056 lbs, and we know the motors have + or - 750 kW so that calculates out to a 3.45 second 0-60 time considering the suspension and tires can put all the power down and not at all traction limited, if GM promised 3 second 0-60 and delivers 3.5 seconds people not going to be happy... By napkin math 3.0 seconds to 60 with 750 kW the truck needs to weigh <7900lbs
 

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Awesome. I can carry 3 more pounds than I can in my 2019 Rubicon. 😀 Seriously though. I don’t need a lot more but I hope those numbers are off both in GVWR and 0-60 time.
 

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Awesome. I can carry 3 more pounds than I can in my 2019 Rubicon. 😀 Seriously though. I don’t need a lot more but I hope those numbers are off both in GVWR and 0-60 time.
no way these numbers are correct... GM is not little league, they are not going to bolt a truck with less capability that a car...
 

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It's been discussed before this truck would more than likely be a class 3 vehicle with a gross weight of over 10,001 pounds. Not sure how this comes as a surprise. The curb weight is the only number that has not been talked about ever online. The only model info I have from GM is for the Edition 1 Truck, not any of the other trims yet or even the SUV. I'm trying to get what I see out there for us to discuss, but as said before I am only relaying what is shown. Their disclaimer on the reference guide says they do their best to make sure it's accurate, but might also be changed without notice.
 

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It's been discussed before this truck would more than likely be a class 3 vehicle with a gross weight of over 10,001 pounds. Not sure how this comes as a surprise. The curb weight is the only number that has not been talked about ever online. The only model info I have from GM is for the Edition 1 Truck, not any of the other trims yet or even the SUV. I'm trying to get what I see out there for us to discuss, but as said before I am only relaying what is shown. Their disclaimer on the reference guide says they do their best to make sure it's accurate, but might also be changed without notice.
Sure, my 2020 GMC 2500HD Denali has a GVWR over 10K lbs (I think it is 10200), but the payload and towing are amazing. If the numbers you are giving are correct the biggest issue for me is pickup truck payload and towing capability. The 2 are related because towing factors in tongue weight which if the payload is 1300 lbs is going to put the tow rating below 10K lbs (Likely 8000lbs), that is simple not competitive for even a half ton truck. Tesla is offering massive payload and towing in the Cybertruck, and Rivian (which is a smaller vehicle that has a curb weight of 5800 lbs) Nearly matched the Hummer in range, Likely Rivian 135 kWh will beat the Hummer 200 kWh in range at 70 mph+, due to aerodynamics and to a lesser extent mass, and has more payload and towing capability. I am just hoping the numbers you have are not correct for now, but the released weight of Lyriq is also higher than I expected, and make me worry that GM is just not competitive in designing and building EV's yet.
 

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If these numbers are real, then all GM has succeeded at is building a poser trophy truck for Hummer fanboys and nothing else. First the bed is too short, but workable. No spare. Range is low, but willing to accept given the other aspects.. Now if these numbers are real, then I’m out.

I have emailed my sales guy to see if he’s getting any info.
 

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If these numbers are real, then all GM has succeeded at is building a poser trophy truck for Hummer fanboys and nothing else. First the bed is too short, but workable. No spare. Now if these numbers are real, then I’m out.

I have emailed my sales guy to see if he’s getting any info.
Exactly my point... It's a dealbreaker for me as I need a certain trailer towing ability at least occasionally. I would be willing to go a little over the trucks rating, but not too much.
 

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Have your sales guy look in the online order/reference guide to make sure I'm not crazy. I agree with you guys as I'm getting one myself and would love for it to be capable of how I need to personally use it also.
 

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If these numbers are real, then all GM has succeeded at is building a poser trophy truck for Hummer fanboys and nothing else. First the bed is too short, but workable. No spare. Range is low, but willing to accept given the other aspects.. Now if these numbers are real, then I’m out.

I have emailed my sales guy to see if he’s getting any info.
Have your sales guy look in the online order/reference guide to make sure I'm not crazy. I agree with you guys as I'm getting one myself and would love for it to be capable of how I need to personally use it also.
 

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A few outlets are picking up the news now.


As it turns out, the all-new 2022 GMC Hummer EV Edition 1 Pickup boasts a staggering curb weight of 9,046 pounds (4,103 kilograms). For all intents and purposes, that’s kinda nuts – by comparison, a GMC Sierra 3500HD 4WD Long Bed Crew Cab with dual rear wheels and 6.6L V8 L5P turbodiesel Duramax powerplant under the hood has a curb weight of 8,355 pounds (3,790 kg), making it 691 pounds lighter than the new Hummer EV Edition 1 Pickup.

A few other noteworthy specs include the Hummer EV’s GVWR (Gross Vehicle Weight Rating), which is rated at 10,400 pounds (4,717 kg).
 

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I get where you guys are coming from, and I agree it'd be disappointing.

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For me personally, I viewed this thing as an offroader first, and everything else (hauler, tower, people mover, etc.) second. It still has all of the extreme capabilities as it did 7 months ago, regardless of weight. If any of you follow the GMC Twitter or Facebook pages, they've had numerous testing videos up the last 2 or 3 weeks...the truck is a beast. When I get mine, I'm using it to dominate offroad, not tow or haul. The EV tech isn't ready for that yet. Good news is, there's a ton of used 2500 and 3500 class trucks and SUVs out there for the occasional towing duties, and many for very affordable prices ($20k and under). Just my take.
 
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I get where you guys are coming from, and I agree it'd be disappointing.

BUT.

For me personally, I viewed this thing as an offroader first, and everything else (hauler, tower, people mover, etc.) second. It still has all of the extreme capabilities as it did 7 months ago, regardless of weight. If any of you follow the GMC Twitter or Facebook pages, they've had numerous testing videos up the last 2 or 3 weeks...the truck is a beast. When I get mine, I'm using it to dominate offroad, not tow or haul. The EV tech isn't ready for that yet. Good news is, there's a ton of used 2500 and 3500 class trucks and SUVs out there for the occasional towing duties, and many for very affordable prices ($20k and under). Just my take.
It reinforces that the Silverado EV is going to be the Hauler and work truck. Whereas the Hummer is the performance "super truck".
 

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I get where you guys are coming from, and I agree it'd be disappointing.

BUT.

For me personally, I viewed this thing as an offroader first, and everything else (hauler, tower, people mover, etc.) second. It still has all of the extreme capabilities as it did 7 months ago, regardless of weight. If any of you follow the GMC Twitter or Facebook pages, they've had numerous testing videos up the last 2 or 3 weeks...the truck is a beast. When I get mine, I'm using it to dominate offroad, not tow or haul. The EV tech isn't ready for that yet. Good news is, there's a ton of used 2500 and 3500 class trucks and SUVs out there for the occasional towing duties, and many for very affordable prices ($20k and under). Just my take.
I completely agree with this statement. It's being slated for extreme offroad dominance and as far as I can tell it will do that. Despite the weights being released they still have not said anything about towing. I'm sure this is because it isn't their main selling point for the vehicle.
 

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The problem lies in comparing this new Hummer to other GM vehicles in production. The HxWxL for the Hummer truck is 81.1 x 86.7 x 216.8 and a Sierra 1500 crew cab short box is 75.5 x 81.2 x 231.7. The Hummer is 15" shorter than a 1500, but about 6 inches wider and taller. Now we know for sure it weighs more than most of our 3500HDs. It's really just a class of it's own for GM and can only compare to the other vehicles out there like Rivian or Tesla Cybertruck. Even both of their trucks are showing "Estimated or Projected". Until they are both here and we have solid concrete evidence to the specs I think then we could compare.
 

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The problem lies in comparing this new Hummer to other GM vehicles in production. The HxWxL for the Hummer truck is 81.1 x 86.7 x 216.8 and a Sierra 1500 crew cab short box is 75.5 x 81.2 x 231.7. The Hummer is 15" shorter than a 1500, but about 6 inches wider and taller. Now we know for sure it weighs more than most of our 3500HDs. It's really just a class of it's own for GM and can only compare to the other vehicles out there like Rivian or Tesla Cybertruck. Even both of their trucks are showing "Estimated or Projected". Until they are both here and we have solid concrete evidence to the specs I think then we could compare.
The problem is the Hummer interior is substantially smaller than a crew cab pickup in length, and the bed is shorter. It is only taller with the air suspension jacked up. I am not sure GM's target market for this, but its no good as a truck (payload and towing too low), its no good as an EV (too high consumption), so GM needs to hope its amazing off road, but even there I think the Rivian with higher normal mode ground clearance, and much lower mass is going to give the Hummer a handful even off road in most circumstances, and the Tesla Cybertruck will likely blow it away on or off road. This pains me to say, as a GM fan and investor, but the Hummer EV missed the mark where it counts. Looks like my stinky old (2020) Duramax will be hanging around longer than I expected. Very disappointing!
 
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