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Honeymoon period review

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I put almost 400 miles on my truck this weekend after picking it up on Saturday morning. I spent Saturday with my toddler son in the truck, so my driving was a little more reserved than getting a real test in. I'll touch more on that aspect of it later

EV Stuff: The good
One pedal mode. Once figuring out that there was an option to enable in the infotainment system, I was pretty impressed by it. At first with the D/L that my 2018 Bolt had, my expectation was just that "L" was the one pedal mode. If you don't enable the one through the infotainment system, the truck will still creep at low speeds unless you come to a complete stop while holding down the paddle. The strength in just "L" seemed comparable to what was in the Bolt and in my Polestar 2. After enabling the explicit one pedal mode, using the paddle, and having the battery level pretty low, the truck will come to a complete stop doing 10 over the speed limit at a yellow light way before the traffic light if you don't modulate the throttle. With the battery at around 75%, the strength was still adequate for stopping. I didn't spend a lot of time with a battery more full than that, but my expectation is that it might be necessary to supplement with the actual brake pedal.

Range for around town driving is actually quite good, even for winter time. I'd expect to get pretty close to the 329 mile range that the EPA estimates. With how inefficient the truck is normally, cabin heating doesn't seem like it's going to take a big chunk out of the range. Maybe 5-8% on the worst days.

Remote precondition gives you an entire hour of time. I'm not sure how long it actually takes for the cabin to warm up, but the hour is likely because it's also trying to warm the enormous battery. I'll want to take some more observations and testing here to be sure of it. You are able to set the desired cabin temperature from in the app after you've started preconditioning.

EV Stuff: The okay
Throttle response at low speeds is a bit touchy. That's probably partly due to getting used to the polestar's pedal that requires quite a bit of movement to transition from low speeds to actually driving, but that method definitely translates to improved maneuverability at low speeds. I'd like to have options here.

At high speeds, it's really easy to get going too fast since you're only using the bottom 10-15% of the available powerband. A little bit of pedal adds a lot of power. Cruise control at 80 mph seemed to hover between 70 and 130kW of usage depending on hills. Full pedal on the floor at highway speeds is something around 750kW. I had to make a concerted effort to take my eyes off the road to check it. It wouldn't take long to get up to nearly 100 mph when you are already doing 70 mph. I haven't topped the truck out yet, but it felt pretty stable at all speeds I've driven it.

WTF Mode. It's definitely faster. 0-30 in normal mode feels like it's probably slower than my Polestar2, but WTF mode is way faster. It's hard to really gauge it because of all the gimmicky stuff the truck does. Lowered suspension, vibrating seat, loud whirring noises coming from the speaker system. If there was an option to turn that crap off I would. That's why I'm only rating it as "okay" here. I'd like an option to turn all of the artificial sounds off in normal mode as well.

Charge rate seems like it's going to be adequate, but because of the amount of energy consumed, it's going to be really important to have properly working 350kW stations. On a 125/62.5kW chargepoint, being the only vehicle, the hummer was getting just over 110kW, which would be a great speed in other EVs, but would mean about an hour of charging for every two on the freeway in the Hummer. 350kW stations seem to be considerably faster, More info about my testing at an EA station here.

EV Stuff: The bad
Obviously, energy consumption on the freeway. They probably put a lot of time into improving this, but at the end of the day, it's still a huge truck with exposed front tires, and it's terrible. If your only option is public charging at DCFC stations, it's probably just as expensive to drive with gas at $3/gal as a gas pickup on the freeway. I posted some detailed info about my highway testing here.

Transitioning off cruise control. In other cars, I have been able to pick up how to transition off of cruise back to normal driving without the vehicle surging forward or backward. I haven't quite figured out what to do in the Hummer. I'm not sure if pedal position is just different with it or what. More about this further down.

Truck stuff: The good
I took a detour on my drive on Sunday to go down a dirt road that I knew was in terrible shape. I put it into offroad mode, not sure if I needed to, but I did. The truck had no problems maintaining 50 mph down some of the worst washboard and big potholes in the roadbed that I've ever seen. It just soaked everything up. I don't have a lot of experience with trucks that are upgraded for off-road, but I was definitely impressed. Would have been scraping the bottom of my Bolt with the straight line I took through everything, and probably blown out a tire.

Fit and finish of the truck seems good. I didn't spend a lot of time going over everything with a fine toothed comb. I do have a few complaints that I will probably try to have addressed by the dealer, I'll put them under "okay"

I ordered the hard power tonneau. It works well, haven't loaded anything into the bed yet. I can just barely see the buttons, I think my wife would have to locate them by feel. The multi-pro tailgate seems like an absolute necessity for getting in and out of the bed, since the bed is up so high and the bumper doesn't have any steps. My last truck was a lowered GMC Sonoma where my feet could practically touch the ground sitting on the end of the tailgate, so it's going to take getting used to. I plan on taking some measurements at some point but haven't yet. The tonneau roll does seem to take up quite a bit of space.

Four wheel steering is amazing for tight parking lots. It definitely makes the truck feel smaller than it is. I'm able to do u-turns easily in spaces that would be a tight fit for my Polestar.

The camera system is pretty good. I have top-down views in other vehicles, but there's something about the hummer one that feels different, so I probably just need to get used to it.

The center of gravity being so low with the batteries and motor being below the cabin seem to help a lot with how it feels going around corners. Less body roll than I would expect from a truck of this size because of it.

Truck stuff: The okay
I am getting a whistling noise near the top of the windshield on the passenger side on the freeway. Cross winds seem to make it much worse. The volume of it is fairly subdued, so I'm able to ignore it. Overall the truck has a lot of wind noise, but, better than the jeep 4xe I test drove. Worse than my Polestar 2 with a bike on the roof.

The "soft open" for the tailgate doesn't always descend from just hitting the buttons.

The frunk buttons are a little weird. Remote says "2x" but hitting it 2x only seems to make the truck acknowledge the request. Have to do the same 2x again for it to open. Have only opened it a handful of time, so I'm not actually sure if I'm doing something wrong. It does still open.

The rear seats seem to have a lot of room, but I had to move my seat slightly forward when putting the rear-facing child seat in the back behind my seat. Still in a comfortable enough position for me, but someone much taller would likely have issues.

The buttons for changing ride height seem sort of non-responsive. UI lag here and other places in the infotainment system are very noticeable. Putting the truck in park-assist mode, I wasn't sure if I actually depressed the switches properly because it wasn't even coming up.

Truck stuff: The bad
It's a truck. Getting my son into the rear facing car seat means having to lift him to chest height with extended arms. The opening is a lot tighter than it seems like it should be, but it's probably because of the up-right seating configuration that I'm not used to.

The OEM tires on the truck are not great on ice. With rear-steering turned on, it is extremely easy to have the rear end get kicked out around low speed corners. I'll have to experiment with turning it off when entering my subdivision because it's just one giant sheet of ice right now. My polestar 2 with winter tires, I can just drive 25 mph around the icy corners no problem. If I had actually gotten the truck in Fall, I probably would have considered getting winter specific tires for it.

Supercruise: The good
Seems to work really well when there isn't a lot of traffic and the roads are straight and have good lines. Automatic lane change will overtake to the left and return afterwards without having to do anything. It's fairly predictable in optimal conditions. It tracks around corners pretty well. Hands off works great in these conditions.

Supercruise: The okay
In heavier traffic, it's less predictable. It might just be my lack of experience with it, but it's really strange being responsible for driving while something else is actually doing it. If it's not able to change lanes, it will slow down and keep speed with the vehicle in front. When the left lane clears up it will start the automatic passing if you have it enabled. I will probably turn the automatic lane change off for that reason.

It tracks lane markings too well in turns. Some of the highway I drove on have lane markings that don't have a smooth radius to them. I drive these roads all the time but never noticed it. Sudden sharp correction to continue driving in the center of the lane. With how wide the truck is, it's a little bit disconcerting to actually use supercruise on busy non-straight roads. Part of that might be because I'm not used to driving a vehicle this wide either.

Supercruise: The bad
Super cruise dropping out is really confusing, as there is a lot going on. Messages, flashing lights. Kind of overloads my brain, but I'm sure that's the point. I think immediately as it drops out it requires you to take over the accelerator, and that could be part of my confusion. If it happens three times in a drive, it locks supercruise out until the next key cycle. I had it drop out twice in the exact same spot when I was doing my consumption testing. It wasn't due to not paying attention, there was no flashing blue light telling me to pay attention, just immediately flashing red. I tried to re-enable it immediately the second time and it locked me out for the rest of the trip.

It can start lane changes it won't complete if the vehicle is driving into a sharp corner. Taking over to complete it results in confusion of "who" is actually driving now. That's probably the worst aspect of supercruise, but again, might just be because I'm not used to it.

Other stuff:
The wind noise and jounce of the vehicle put my son to sleep pretty quickly. Problem is it was a few hours before his normal nap time so it screwed up the rest of my Saturday. It's going to be great for road trips because of that, but it's something I will have to be aware of when we schedule activities. He is two, so his nap schedule is still pretty important.

I'd like to test out how well it pulls a trailer, but I'm not sure if I will have time to in the next few weeks.

I plan on taking some measurements for different things, seeing if my coolers will fit in the frunk/bed. If anyone has suggestions for things they'd like me to measure or look at, I'd be happy to take some photos.
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My 2018 Corvette ZO6/ZO7 with frameless windows drops the door glass about 1/4 inch when interior or exterior door handle is used would expect same technology in this new Himmer EV
Confirmed this today while checking out my first real-world Hummer.
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We were seeing 2.2 mi/kWh just driving around on 35/45 mph roads with the top off the front and the rear window down. A/C blasting as well since it was nearly 90 degrees yesterday here. Not particularly trying to get good range. Realistic around town range is probably 450+ in optimal weather.
450miles...in town...WOW....lets hope so...🤞
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dark FX, sorry if I missed this in some of your feedback, but as I’ve watched the Throttle House videos they have brought up the noise in the roof a couple of times. During your trip have you noticed the roof rattling around abs making noise? I know you mentioned the wind noise at the top of the windshield which hopefully the dealer will be able to address, but it seems odd to me that the panels would rattle around. My old Jeep Rubicon never had that issue with panel rattling.
We were seeing 2.2 mi/kWh just driving around on 35/45 mph roads with the top off the front and the rear window down. A/C blasting as well since it was nearly 90 degrees yesterday here. Not particularly trying to get good range. Realistic around town range is probably 450+ in optimal weather.
This may be a stupid question and I don't mean to sound like I doubt your estimate, but isn't the 329 estimate intended to be maximum range? Or is that range based on suboptimal conditions (high speeds, cold weather, etc.)?
This may be a stupid question and I don't mean to sound like I doubt your estimate, but isn't the 329 estimate intended to be maximum range? Or is that range based on suboptimal conditions (high speeds, cold weather, etc.)?
329 Miles is estimated range in mixed driving(city and Highway) in ideal conditions.

If you are only traveling on back roads/city streets you will see much better efficiency and range than if you were traveling Highways.
Speed, weather, driving habits, roads, can all play a part in the range of the Hummer.
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329 Miles is estimated range in mixed driving(city and Highway) in ideal conditions.

If you are only traveling on back roads/city streets you will see much better efficiency and range than if you were traveling Highways.
Speed, weather, driving habits, roads, can all play a part in the range of the Hummer.
Understood on factors that impact range but I had assumed they would calculate the estimate under optimal conditions in order to provide a maximum range. I was not aware it was based on mixed driving. Thanks for the clarification! I can't imagine I will ever need 450 miles of range for city driving but it's helpful to understand that 329 already effectively factors in a haircut for highway driving.
Understood on factors that impact range but I had assumed they would calculate the estimate under optimal conditions in order to provide a maximum range. I was not aware it was based on mixed driving. Thanks for the clarification! I can't imagine I will ever need 450 miles of range for city driving but it's helpful to understand that 329 already effectively factors in a haircut for highway driving.
There are three MPGe numbers for EVs, highway, city and combined. For the Hummer those are 43, 51 and 47. So really the city EPA range would be 357 miles and the highway EPA range 301 miles. But the highway range measured by EPA is at an average of about 48 mph, not 65 or 70. The city number is based on 20 mph average. There is a cycle for each one, those can be found here: https://cleantechnica.com/2020/08/18/how-does-epa-calculate-electric-car-range/
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And the windshield developed a crack in it after we hit some heavy storms. Now I will get to find out if they actually have new ones available.
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dark FX, sorry if I missed this in some of your feedback, but as I’ve watched the Throttle House videos they have brought up the noise in the roof a couple of times. During your trip have you noticed the roof rattling around abs making noise? I know you mentioned the wind noise at the top of the windshield which hopefully the dealer will be able to address, but it seems odd to me that the panels would rattle around. My old Jeep Rubicon never had that issue with panel rattling.
No noise in mine that I have noticed. I was trying to listen for it too.
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In other news, Rivian is delivering my R1T on Monday. Wonder if I'll be the first with both it and the Hummer.
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I've noticed that WTF won't engage if it's raining. It just says, "cooling" forever. Anyone else notice this?
I wouldn't even want to try WTF on wet roads....
Why not? As long as you do it safely, wouldn't you be interested to see the traction control in action?
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Why not? As long as you do it safely, wouldn't you be interested to see the traction control in action?
Mine did that when I first got it. Haven't tried enabling it on wet roads. The UI slowness with WTF and Crab modes is really disenchanting.
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@Dark-Fx I might totally be crazy on this one - but I remember on some video, I think by TFL, they mentioned an air compressor on the truck for the air suspension. I think the picture attached shows it. By any chance is it useable? I know the Rivian has a built in air compressor that's widely discussed as a feature. I would have figured with this being such an "off road centric" vehicle, it would have a usable air compressor too, but I don't see many people talking about it.

I know it's coming, but can't wait to hear your deep dive review of both the Hummer and the R1T!
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@Dark-Fx I might totally be crazy on this one - but I remember on some video, I think by TFL, they mentioned an air compressor on the truck for the air suspension. I think the picture attached shows it. By any chance is it useable? I know the Rivian has a built in air compressor that's widely discussed as a feature called CTIS. I would have figured with this being such an "off road centric" vehicle, it would have a usable air compressor too, but I don't see many people talking about it.

I know it's coming, but can't wait to hear your deep dive review of both the Hummer and the R1T! View attachment 2087
If it’s the video I’m thinking of, Andre said you could air up and down from the dash, which was an H1 feature. The H EV feature is you can set a pressure for the truck to honk when you let enough air out of each tire to reach the set pressure - no active air up/down that I’m aware of despite of course having a built in compressor for the air suspension.
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The compressor is only used for the suspension, nothing else.
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If it’s the video I’m thinking of, Andre said you could air up and down from the dash, which was an H1 feature. The H EV feature is you can set a pressure for the truck to honk when you let enough air out of each tire to reach the set pressure - no active air up/down that I’m aware of despite of course having a built in compressor for the air suspension.
Yep, I think we're talking about the same video. I know the G63 4x4 squared and the 6x6 both have that feature to air up/down from within the cab.. LOVE that feature. would have been really cool to get this in the Hummer EV. I think that would have been a defining feature showing how off roady it is.

I understand the H1 had massive hubs and so does the G63 to handle that, but still.

Even if I need to just hook up a hose to the air compressor's tank to fill the tires back up, that would be better than lugging around a 120v air compressor and even lugging around a 120v air compressor is better than hooking up the current compressor I have that just clamps to the battery terminals on my truck. So.. regardless it's going to be a step up, but I'd love to only have to carry around a set of hoses instead of a whole compressor for airing back up at the end of a day of off roading.
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The compressor is only used for the suspension, nothing else.
I am determined to find a way to jack into it and use it, lol. from Andre's video with TFL, it looks like theirs a bleed nipple on it, so maybe I still can... we will see!
I don't think it is a high enough capacity to really use it for anything. You probably risk burning it up. It's definitely there and you can hear it running if you change suspension levels a lot.

I am curious how long extract mode will take to enter, there's a lot of air volume that needs to be made up.
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