30 EV models by 2025 is bold, I hope they can execute it and do it well.
I wonder if that includes the vehicles they're going to make for Honda/Acura.30 EV models by 2025 is bold, I hope they can execute it and do it well.
My interpretation from the wording is that its 30 EV models from General Motors. With Chevrolet, GMC, Cadillac and Buick under them that seems very doable. It also helps that we recently learned about how flexible the new EV platform is.I wonder if that includes the vehicles they're going to make for Honda/Acura.
That's my interpretation as well. On last count, we had:My interpretation from the wording is that its 30 EV models from General Motors. With Chevrolet, GMC, Cadillac and Buick under them that seems very doable. It also helps that we recently learned about how flexible the new EV platform is.
That's my interpretation as well. On last count, we had:
- At least 5 Cadillacs
- At least 5 Chevrolets
- At least 4 GMC's
- At least 2 Buicks
- Cruise Origin
My interpretation from the wording is that its 30 EV models from General Motors. With Chevrolet, GMC, Cadillac and Buick under them that seems very doable. It also helps that we recently learned about how flexible the new EV platform is.I would rather see them make 5 great EV models that have mass appeal, and are segment leaders than 30 average EV's30 EV models by 2025 is bold, I hope they can execute it and do it well.
That's true, they should have a lot to offer the Chinese market especially.That's my interpretation as well. On last count, we had:
- At least 5 Cadillacs
- At least 5 Chevrolets
- At least 4 GMC's
- At least 2 Buicks
- Cruise Origin
These are exclusively for the North American market. My guess is the other 13 will be sold in China, South America, Europe, etc.
I sure hope so.... It does make a big difference, I have an E-Tron which does not have this feature, and a Tesla that does...Does anyone know if GM will be using Plug and Charge for their EV's? The new Ford Mustang Mach E and supposedly it makes it easier to charge - just plug it and go which is basically just like a Tesla. This standard would make the Supercharger network superfluous since almost every new EV would work on it.
I hope so but I don't think they've officially announced anything yet. The most I can find so far is being able to pay for charging with the myChevrolet app.Does anyone know if GM will be using Plug and Charge for their EV's? The new Ford Mustang Mach E and supposedly it makes it easier to charge - just plug it and go which is basically just like a Tesla. This standard would make the Supercharger network superfluous since almost every new EV would work on it.
Yeah, I saw the Plaid version .75 Model S, Hmm, I think this is just the new performance model, amazing 0-60 time of <2 seconds. Steering wheel is lame, having driven the C8 corvette, It is hard to get used to the steering wheel, and the new Model S wheel is far more odd.I don't mean to derail this discussion again, but it's interesting that Tesla has announced a "new" Model S Plaid version which starts at $119,000 and gets only 390 miles of range. I know they are not comparable to a Hummer in most respects, but that's about $6500 more than a Hummer for only about 40 more miles of range in a sedan - not a truck. For all those Tesla fans out there, that doesn't sound like that great a deal considering they both have tri motor setups. There is a better looking interior (but still not great). Check it out online. Look at that steering wheel? It's a very impractical yoke. Who thought that would be good idea?
More relevant though are the equivalent changes to the Model X SUV which should be comparable to the Hummer EV SUV! The Plaid for that costs $120,000. I expect the Hummer SUV will maybe be $2000 more than the truck, so it should still be less than the Model X. The Tesla Plaid will have a range of 341 miles and 2.5 seconds to 60 miles an hour. Again, we can assume the Hummer SUV is close to the trucks 350 mile range and 3 second time which make it more than competitive. It's possible that the SUV gets better on both the range and acceleration times than the SUV because it should have better aerodynamics (no truck bed) and possibly lighter weight as it will be shorter than the truck. With a nicer interior and more practical overall shape (boxy) in the Hummer, I would see Tesla having some real competition now in that upper end market. I almost wish that GMC came out with the SUV version first as I think the competition will not be as good!
Just to add to my previous comment: who knows what the added cost for the SUV is for the truck (certainly not me!), i was just basing the additional $2000 on early prices for the equivalent Rivian. The Rivians are now $2500 apart in price, so hopefully the Hummer will not be too much more than that. You are also correct that they may water down the capability a bit for the SUV version, but I hope not. I am pretty sure we are going to lose quite a bit in length for the SUV based upon early renderings they sent out. This would actually help in some offroading aspects - better breakover (due to shorter wheelbase) and better departure angle (shorter rear overhang), but due to the shorter wheelbase it may not be able to pack as many batteries between the wheels. We should see soon!Yeah, I saw the Plaid version .75 Model S, Hmm, I think this is just the new performance model, amazing 0-60 time of <2 seconds. Steering wheel is lame, having driven the C8 corvette, It is hard to get used to the steering wheel, and the new Model S wheel is far more odd.
We should also remember that GM rated the Hummer EV edition 1 at >350 miles of range, and knowing GM, I am sure they have some margin in there. I am thinking the EPA rating might be closer to 400, but GM did not feel confident enough to promise 400 miles of range, but of course @Aloppen could give us a hint?
While we are speculating the Hummer SUV will likely be $5K more than the truck, there is substantially more cost in the SUV, GM is not going to give that extra cost away. One caveat to that is the capabilities, would GM scale down the SUV, less payload and towing capability saving weight and cost? It will be interesting to see what comes out...
The wheelbase on the Hummer EV SUV looks to be the same as the SUT, just comparing B pillar to wheel center. The rear overhang is definitely shorter on the SUV. I do not think GM is going to build 2 different suspensions, and so likely capability will stay the same, however I am sure the rear of the SUV version will have lighter springs, for better 3rd row ride quality which might limit towing and payload ratings. 100% speculation here as I have no insight.Just to add to my previous comment: who knows what the added cost for the SUV is for the truck (certainly not me!), i was just basing the additional $2000 on early prices for the equivalent Rivian. The Rivians are now $2500 apart in price, so hopefully the Hummer will not be too much more than that. You are also correct that they may water down the capability a bit for the SUV version, but I hope not. I am pretty sure we are going to lose quite a bit in length for the SUV based upon early renderings they sent out. This would actually help in some offroading aspects - better breakover (due to shorter wheelbase) and better departure angle (shorter rear overhang), but due to the shorter wheelbase it may not be able to pack as many batteries between the wheels. We should see soon!
I have that app and a Bolt, I do not think it works with Electirfy America. Right now they have live status only for EVGO and ChargePoint chargers. FYI, EA is the only charging network to implement Plug and Charge so far. Taycan and Mach E are the only cars supporting it so far, but the new Lucid has announced they will also.I hope so but I don't think they've officially announced anything yet. The most I can find so far is being able to pay for charging with the myChevrolet app.
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