Hopefully this is just a mule, and not production representative, looks just like a regular F-150, does not like like they did much work aerodynamically (wheels, mirror, grill )? Perhaps Ford does not understand that a mainstream EV pickup cannot make the same sacrifices as the Hummer Ev when it comes to aerodynamics as it is a different target audience?
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With the amount of camo that's still on I imagine it's a mule. However, I can't see Ford deviating that much from the standard F-150 design.Hopefully this is just a mule, and not production representative, looks just like a regular F-150, does not like like they did much work aerodynamically (wheels, mirror, grill )? Perhaps Ford does not understand that a mainstream EV pickup cannot make the same sacrifices as the Hummer Ev when it comes to aerodynamics as it is a different target audience?
Ya, they are leaving it standard body on frame, which I think is a mistake, they should build an entirely new undercarriage like GM is doing for the Hummer EV, etc..., that way you can make it stronger, lighter, and more optimized for battery layout and protection. Also Unibody is cheaper to assemble as you get rid of an entire frame line in the factory, and less parts.With the amount of camo that's still on I imagine it's a mule. However, I can't see Ford deviating that much from the standard F-150 design.
There were similar electric F-150 mules like this spotted late last summer/ fall. Wonder what they're testing now...? I'm really not sure what to expect from Ford here... Honestly, if it looks pretty much the same as the regular F-150, that could be a good thing. It really comes down to performance and ability and they will need to really deliver on that front. The Hummer has a lot of other things going for it where they'll be able to ask the higher price, get away with less range, etc.. If Ford just makes this an F-150 Platinum with an all electric drivetrain, they better be prepared to offer 400+ real world miles on a charge with hopefully a higher mileage option and it will need to fit into the price matrix where the lower maintenance and charging costs will balance out or provide value in a relatively short amount of time vs. the rest of the lineup. I'm not sure if I have real high hopes though. They're taking a beating with the recent developments regarding battery suppliers and the Mustang Mach-E is somewhat of a let-down, IMO. The Mach-E is not a bad car really, but it also shows that Ford seems to be not paying attention to what the customers want, nor what Tesla, GM and VW/Audi/Porsche are doing. Between the Hummer EV and electric Silverado, I thing GM is going to eat Ford's lunch on this one unless Ford has something extra special cooking that we don't know about.
Of course GM is going to eat Ford's lunch in EV's... Ford is catalog engineering their EV's drive units from Borg Warner, batteries from LG, and SK, F150 built on a standard Body on Frame chassis. Ford does not have the $$$ to do EV's right. GM is building their own battery empire with LG, and their own drive units (Automatic transmission factories can build drive units with almost no retooling) GM is also bringing all their software inside, so they have more control of the user experience, and more ways to get revenue after the sale. I also am hearing whispers the Hummer EV range will be better than advertised, maybe substantially better?There were similar electric F-150 mules like this spotted late last summer/ fall. Wonder what they're testing now...? I'm really not sure what to expect from Ford here... Honestly, if it looks pretty much the same as the regular F-150, that could be a good thing. It really comes down to performance and ability and they will need to really deliver on that front. The Hummer has a lot of other things going for it where they'll be able to ask the higher price, get away with less range, etc.. If Ford just makes this an F-150 Platinum with an all electric drivetrain, they better be prepared to offer 400+ real world miles on a charge with hopefully a higher mileage option and it will need to fit into the price matrix where the lower maintenance and charging costs will balance out or provide value in a relatively short amount of time vs. the rest of the lineup. I'm not sure if I have real high hopes though. They're taking a beating with the recent developments regarding battery suppliers and the Mustang Mach-E is somewhat of a let-down, IMO. The Mach-E is not a bad car really, but it also shows that Ford seems to be not paying attention to what the customers want, nor what Tesla, GM and VW/Audi/Porsche are doing. Between the Hummer EV and electric Silverado, I thing GM is going to eat Ford's lunch on this one unless Ford has something extra special cooking that we don't know about.
Just like when car companies would understate horsepower numbers, I think the same thing is happening with range numbers. I've seen articles for cars like the Mach-E or the Taycan about how the range is better than the EPA numbers suggest.Of course GM is going to eat Ford's lunch in EV's... Ford is catalog engineering their EV's drive units from Borg Warner, batteries from LG, and SK, F150 built on a standard Body on Frame chassis. Ford does not have the $$$ to do EV's right. GM is building their own battery empire with LG, and their own drive units (Automatic transmission factories can build drive units with almost no retooling) GM is also bringing all their software inside, so they have more control of the user experience, and more ways to get revenue after the sale. I also am hearing whispers the Hummer EV range will be better than advertised, maybe substantially better?
Yes, Ford, GM, Audi and Hyundai realistically estimate their range, Tesla fudges the numbers a bit. Porsche way underestimates their performance, and range on Taycan. Taycan base model is EPA rated at 225 miles but just last week at a constant 70 MPH got 293 miles.Just like when car companies would understate horsepower numbers, I think the same thing is happening with range numbers. I've seen articles for cars like the Mach-E or the Taycan about how the range is better than the EPA numbers suggest.
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