Impressive vehicle and thorough review. there are two non-starters for me on the Rivian 1) no satellite radio (if you live in "the middle of nowhere" like i do, siriusXM is essential) and 2) the rear seat does not fold up. nice rear storage but my dog won't get in the back of my truck unless the rear seat is folded up (Silverado 2500HD). he seems to be slightly claustrophobic ;-)"coolest pickup truck ever made"
I am excited to see Dougs review of the Hummer, If Doug is honest, the Hummer should score the same or better, I See Hummer gaining points on Tech (Cameras, Car Play and A/A, and Supercruise is better Rivian's driver assist) Practicality, Hummer has a glove box, 4 wheel steer, under seat storage, a bigger bed, much better frunk, and more comfortable for 5 people, Looks, Come on this is a no brainer, the Hummer looks way better then the R1T, Cool factor, Hummer wins again, Value is the one category that Hummer will not win on, and Hummer is the most expensive in the class, and that will hurt... -3 points Hummer should win on quality too, so overall the Hummer could set a new All Time High for Doug scores, as I cannot see how using the same curve the Hummer could lose, Value is the Hummers only real disadvantage.Impressive vehicle and thorough review. there are two non-starters for me on the Rivian 1) no satellite radio (if you live in "the middle of nowhere" like i do, siriusXM is essential) and 2) the rear seat does not fold up. nice rear storage but my dog won't get in the back of my truck unless the rear seat is folded up (Silverado 2500HD). he seems to be slightly claustrophobic ;-)
The Hummer EV truck will be perfect for him (and me). Waiting to get "the call".
It does, it has a single 400 Watt Plug in the bed.Hummer has no power outlets in the bed
It's been demonstrated, several times,.GM people dancing around the 3s 0-60 claim they’re unable to demonstrated
That's in line with other fully optioned trucks, depending on configurations.1300lb cart, 7500lb towing
Actually I think I knew about that, thinking back on it. However isn't that outlet, as well as the two located in the cab, all sharing the same 400W circuit?It does, it has a single 400 Watt Plug in the bed.
It's shared with the rear seat outlet.Actually I think I knew about that, thinking back on it. However isn't that outlet, as well as the two located in the cab, all sharing the same 400W circuit?
The Power Station and V2V is coming with the SUV then to the Truck.GM has mentioned in the past some power accessories, but it's unclear if they will be available anytime soon or for the '22 Hummer at all. They've mentioned a vehicle to vehicle charging cable as well as a power tap cable that provides additional power outlets. The onboard Power Station setup is supposed to come to the Hummer in the future, but I think starting in '24 model year with the SUV -- it was talked about with the SUV reveal.
Hummer vs R1TDoes the rear seat in the hummer fold up? I haven’t paid attention to that. I like the rear seat in my F-350 as it can fold up to allow more room and there are dividers that fold flat into the floor that I can pop up to create a box for containing stuff. My dogs prefer being on the seat to enjoy the view out the windows.
Reviewers seem to like complaining about the R1T cameras. This is weird to me because the camera quality is OK. Not great, but right on par with or better than most everyone else. On par with the rear camera in my Model S, better than the potato cameras in my Model Y or my Fords. That’s why it’s weird they say it’s not good. I’d love to know which vehicle cameras these reviewers think are actually good? The auto industry as a whole just kinda sucks at cameras and tech, with the exception of the engineering teams they’ve put together for driver assistance/ autopilot stuff. I can’t compare with the Hummer until I sit in the Hummer. It’s too bad that R1T does not have underbody cams like the Hummer, that would be a welcome addition with its off-road focus. The lack of a 360 camera view is weird although I expect them to add it via software since all the cameras are there. Same with trailer camera. Rear camera is good, we just don’t have the extra guides and features we see in other trucks that seem to mostly be a software addition if they do it.
I think one thing that throws people off about the Rivian camera quality is their use of screen space. They zoom the camera view to cover that 14” screen and the ”low” resolution and compression become very apparent. We had some of this in the Tesla S/X with the vertical display before the interface change. Every example I’ve seen of camera views in the Hummer have a smaller camera image in the middle of the screen. While it’s small, it helps it appear way clearer/sharper by not scaling it up.
R1T interface is a bit laggy, yet has seen noticeable improvements with regular updates. I would say it’s close to the same as Tesla’s MCU2 in terms of lag/performance, like almost there, which everyone wants to use as the benchmark. Rivian’s navigation is excellent.
As for satellite radio, I get some people like it. I personally can’t stand Sirius/XM as a company and their pricing shenanigans or constant telemarketing, er.. harassment. I suppose I’m not a fan of talk radio anyway and aside from sports, it always seemed to be the same stuff over and over again and paying monthly and still having commercials. Ugh. Having stuff while out in the middle of nowhere is important. I plan on building a new camp trailer soon and will be equipping it with StarLink.
As for Hummer and practicality, I really don’t see how it would fare better than the R1T in an overall score. It is a bit roomier inside. The bed is a few inches wider and 6” longer, yet 5” shorter when the tailgates are down. Hummer has no power outlets in the bed and no integrated spare tire storage. R1T has built in air compressor, spare tire/storage compartment, secure cable lock. Frunk is indeed smaller on the R1T but that gear tunnel is a huge deal. You don’t realize just how significant it is until you see it in person. I think it’s funny how everyone points out the lack of a glove box on the R1T. Sure, no traditionally placed glove box, but each seat has it’s own storage compartment and there’s way more storage/ cargo space on the R1T than the Hummer. Maybe I’m missing the allure of a glove box, so perhaps someone can enlighten me. I look at the glove box in all my vehicles and what’s in there…. Printed owners manual, registration. Yep, not going to miss having that space. I know some carry first aid kits or other small tools. I carry such things, just not in the glovebox as most cars it’s too small or awkwardly shaped.
Not sure Hummer will win on quality either. R1T quality is top notch. GM has a ton of convincing to do, at least for me, to show me they can build a reliable and quality vehicle of this size with these specs. If they’re using the same flat and unsupportive seats they’ve been using in the Sierra and other trucks, I wouldn’t buy the Hummer just for that reason alone. I’ve bought enough GM/Chevy trucks over the years to convince myself that I’d never buy another…. And then the Hummer EV comes along and I plunk down a reservation. Waiting for GM to convince me. I think the Hummer is cool, but I’m losing interest fast with the 1300lb cart, 7500lb towing and 329 mile rated range while it weighs 9000lbs and has a 200KWh battery. GM people dancing around the 3s 0-60 claim they’re unable to demonstrate and making excuses for — I always though that was being overstated anyway. And every time I see the truck accelerate or brake it has spongey rocking-horse suspension.
Still have my reservation and I’m not going anywhere yet. Plenty of time for GM to convince me on this one, if they can. It seems I wouldn’t be able to get mine for over a year anyway.