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Yea, this year was a little slow for trucks, so it was just a win by default. Not to say the truck is no good, but it has no revolutionary features, except for maybe the power out capability. The Silverado/Sierra twins as well as the Ram Revolution should offer better range, more flexibility with the midgate as well as many other features Ford can't offer due to its ICE heritage.
 

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Yea, this year was a little slow for trucks, so it was just a win by default. Not to say the truck is no good, but it has no revolutionary features, except for maybe the power out capability. The Silverado/Sierra twins as well as the Ram Revolution should offer better range, more flexibility with the midgate as well as many other features Ford can't offer due to its ICE heritage.
I have a couple complaints with the F150 Lightning, its expensive for what it is, and has awful rear ground clearance, followed one on the freeway, the rear control arms, and motor are very low. Missing heat pump, and other tech an EV priced at 100K should have.
 

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I have a couple complaints with the F150 Lightning, its expensive for what it is, and has awful rear ground clearance, followed one on the freeway, the rear control arms, and motor are very low. Missing heat pump, and other tech an EV priced at 100K should have.
The reason the Hummer has such good ground clearance with those things is because the bed is so high off the ground. Lightning would be a lot less functional as a truck.
 

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The reason the Hummer has such good ground clearance with those things is because the bed is so high off the ground. Lightning would be a lot less functional as a truck.
Not exactly, the Hummer has a high bed because the packaging of the rear drive unit, Silverado E already addresses that with new drive unit design, If GM designed their drive units like Lucid, the bed could be the lowest in class and still have good ground clearance. The Hummer has a lot of air, and hollow space under the bed and above the ground clearance, not the best packaging.
 

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Not exactly, the Hummer has a high bed because the packaging of the rear drive unit, Silverado E already addresses that with new drive unit design, If GM designed their drive units like Lucid, the bed could be the lowest in class and still have good ground clearance. The Hummer has a lot of air, and hollow space under the bed and above the ground clearance, not the best packaging.
Silverado and Sierra are only available with dual motors, not three. I don't think Lucid's motor design would hold up to the abuse a 9200 lbs pickup with a 7k tow rating would put on it.
 

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Not exactly, the Hummer has a high bed because the packaging of the rear drive unit, Silverado E already addresses that with new drive unit design, If GM designed their drive units like Lucid, the bed could be the lowest in class and still have good ground clearance. The Hummer has a lot of air, and hollow space under the bed and above the ground clearance, not the best packaging.
But the Hummer was designed to have a good departure angle, it is not just about ground clearance.
 

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But the Hummer was designed to have a good departure angle, it is not just about ground clearance.
The Hummers were destined from birth to be the odd children of the BT1 platform family. The purpose is very different. Whereas the Silverado and Sierra EVs, as well as the Escalade, Yukon and Tahoe EVs are/will be packaged like traditional trucks and SUVs to serve traditional truck and SUV purposes, the Hummer twins were made to showcase the prowess of the platform, and serve as the ultimate off road showcases of what BT1 can do. Hence the high bed, breakover and departure angles, and extreme ground clearance.

I have no doubt that GM will soon be far and away the electric truck and full size SUV sales leader by the later part of this decade. All they need is to get this production ramped up.
 

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Silverado and Sierra are only available with dual motors, not three. I don't think Lucid's motor design would hold up to the abuse a 9200 lbs pickup with a 7k tow rating would put on it.
As far as a motor is concerned HP and Torque output is HP and Torque output, does not matter the config, for the final drive gears though I agree with you, Hummer needs strong gears, that said, the box can be made more compact. I built drive boxes for turbine engines that turn 20k rpm input, and have 1500 ft lbs input, 3500 ft lbs output that were smaller and lighter then the Hummer Box, Good design does not have to be big and heavy. The drive boxes we built drive a propeller in the water, on a hydroplane the prop goes in and out of the water for loading and unloading every few seconds with a 40 lb propeller turning 8-9K rpm, that is serious stress on the gears and shaft, I have seen it turn a 2" Heat Treated Vasco shaft into a drill bit.
 

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As far as a motor is concerned HP and Torque output is HP and Torque output, does not matter the config, for the final drive gears though I agree with you, Hummer needs strong gears, that said, the box can be made more compact. I built drive boxes for turbine engines that turn 20k rpm input, and have 1500 ft lbs input, 3500 ft lbs output that were smaller and lighter then the Hummer Box, Good design does not have to be big and heavy. The drive boxes we built drive a propeller in the water, on a hydroplane the prop goes in and out of the water for loading and unloading every few seconds with a 40 lb propeller turning 8-9K rpm, that is serious stress on the gears and shaft, I have seen it turn a 2" Heat Treated Vasco shaft into a drill bit.
Load is going to be at least quadruple to maintain highway speed. More load, more heat.
 

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Load is going to be at least quadruple to maintain highway speed. More load, more heat.
Bigger does not mean manages heat better... I would argue the Lucid Motor generates less heat as it has less resistance, and more efficient. Lucid also has their differential gears on the low torque side of the gearbox, not the torque multiplied side.
 
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