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Great numbers OP! Over the last 18,000 miles I can say my numbers were well over 329 when driving around town. One road-trip on the interstate here in the Appalachian Mountains and my estimates are back at 329 on the next charge. I can also say the cold definitely affects the range. My best numbers were last summer.
 

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Great numbers OP! Over the last 18,000 miles I can say my numbers were well over 329 when driving around town. One road-trip on the interstate here in the Appalachian Mountains and my estimates are back at 329 on the next charge. I can also say the cold definitely affects the range. My best numbers were last summer.
Yes, I’ve definitely noticed colder weather affects the range more than I would have expected. The other night it was cold and I repeated the 55 mph experiment and was averaging 1.9 mi/kWh instead of 2.2 mi/kWh.
 

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I have max regen on and one pedal driving
Along with relaxed acceleration set in “my mode”, I drive mostly around town and I’m at 320-350 miles.
What is the average outside temperature when you are typically driving around town? If you reset trip switch, turn off one pedal driving, eliminate any Fast acceleration and mostly only use regen handle on steering wheel and on a warmer day, can you get it up over 2.0 mi/kWh over 20 mile test?

One pedal driving is less efficient for me.
 

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What is the average outside temperature when you are typically driving around town? If you reset trip switch, turn off one pedal driving, eliminate any Fast acceleration and mostly only use regen handle on steering wheel and on a warmer day, can you get it up over 2.0 mi/kWh over 20 mile test?

One pedal driving is less efficient for me.
The range of temperature since I have had the truck (6 Months) has been from 5 Degrees to 45 Degrees.
Average probably mid 30's. On the coldest day I would let the truck condition the interior for 20 Minutes before i would even go outside.
Looking forward to the warmer weather! I love the one pedal driving with max regenerative braking.
 

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Once the 3X trucks come out with the 22" All Terrain tires, maybe GM will spec the range for those, so we can see the difference. There are many factors that affect the range, wheel weight, tire weight and rolling resistance. The Mud Terrains on the ED1 are marked as EV range tuned, meaning they are trying to reduce rolling resistance. My expectation would be that the All Terrains would be slightly better, but the larger wheel diameter could potentially have an adverse affect.
I would like to see a tire that would give a quieter ride. I feel the stock tires are loud, but it's hard to tell because the truck is so quiet!!!
Thoughts????
 

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I would like to see a tire that would give a quieter ride. I feel the stock tires are loud, but it's hard to tell because the truck is so quiet!!!
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All trucks with mud terrain tires are loud. All terrains will naturally be quieter, but regular all season tire even more quiet. I am getting the extreme off-road package with the mud terrains, but I expect to swap those out for all terrain tires, once I wear out that first set of tires. All terrains also usually have a good snow rating.
 

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All trucks with mud terrain tires are loud. All terrains will naturally be quieter, but regular all season tire even more quiet. I am getting the extreme off-road package with the mud terrains, but I expect to swap those out for all terrain tires, once I wear out that first set of tires. All terrains also usually have a good snow rating.
Considering we really don't get a lot of snow here on Long Island...Especially this year, less than an 1" so far. I would probably want to go with the All Season for the "Quiet Ride"
anyone know what tire that would be?
 

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Yes, stock ED1 tires. Btw, I now believe it’s possible to exceed the 500 mile range mark in the Hummer EV at max 45-55 miles per hour with consistent use of regenerative braking on optimal road surface in low wind and average temperature. Going to try that soon and will report back.

Does anyone know if there any tires that would extend the range that would also decrease 0-60 time? (By how much?) I’ve been thinking about buying one of these floor jacks and keeping two or three sets of balanced wheels/tires in my garage for different use cases.
When trying to get the longest range possible at a fixed speed, regen braking is the enemy. All energy recouped through regen braking must be reapplied to the vehicle and as no system is 100% efficient in converting energy, there is a loss in the process. Remember, the perpetual motion machine does not exist.
 

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When trying to get the longest range possible at a fixed speed, regen braking is the enemy. All energy recouped through regen braking must be reapplied to the vehicle and as no system is 100% efficient in converting energy, there is a loss in the process. Remember, the perpetual motion machine does not exist.
When you have to slow down suddenly due to traffic at 55 on highway won’t regen braking help efficiency vs using brake?
 

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When you have to slow down suddenly due to traffic at 55 on highway won’t regen braking help efficiency vs using brake?
Yes, if you have to slow down regen is the way to do it, but most people when cruising are on and off the throttle (my wife is the worst at this, speed up and down by 7-10 mph) this is a very bad habit for efficiency.
 

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Yes, if you have to slow down regen is the way to do it, but most people when cruising are on and off the throttle (my wife is the worst at this, speed up and down by 7-10 mph) this is a very bad habit for efficiency.
Does Super Cruise on highway with some slow downs use regen braking? That was how I was able to hit 2.2 mi/kWh at 55 mph. It was about 90% at 55 and then 10% slowing down to 25-35 and back to 55.
 

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Why would regen braking be the enemy?
It puts energy back into the battery, replacing a percentage of what’s used. Without it I would think you would get less range, highway or around town…no?
Works great in stop and go traffic, but not really a benefit on the highway when running at constant speed.

On my Bolt, if I am traveling on the highway with cruise control, I turn off one-pedal mode. On my Mach E it always turns off one-pedal when using cruise control. There is still regen, but the level is much less than in one-pedal or using the switch on the steering wheel.
 

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Does Super Cruise on highway with some slow downs use regen braking? That was how I was able to hit 2.2 mi/kWh at 55 mph. It was about 90% at 55 and then 10% slowing down to 25-35 and back to 55.
Why would regen braking be the enemy?
It puts energy back into the battery, replacing a percentage of what’s used. Without it I would think you would get less range, highway or around town…no?
Read closely, and understand physics, then think about this. When hypermiling regen loses you energy, because the conversion of the energy is not 100% efficient, actually I think in the Hummer it's less than 70% efficient by the time you go through all the conversions. so you get say 50-60% of the energy back if you regen, but if you just let the vehicle add some speed on a downhill there is no energy lost (within reason). This is the reason most people hypermile in a flat area at high elevation for the best results in an EV.

Conversion with round numbers for losses

Rotating energy- generate AC(-5%)- convert to DC (-5%)- enter battery cell(-5%)- exit battery cell(-5%) - convert to AC(-5%)- power AC Motor(-5%)- rotating energy

Now can you see whenever possible you should let the vehicle add speed rather than regen? When braking regen is great, but when going for the best range (hypermile) you don't brake.. Ever!
 

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Read closely, and understand physics, then think about this. When hypermiling regen loses you energy, because the conversion of the energy is not 100% efficient, actually I think in the Hummer it's less than 70% efficient by the time you go through all the conversions. so you get say 50-60% of the energy back if you regen, but if you just let the vehicle add some speed on a downhill there is no energy lost (within reason). This is the reason most people hypermile in a flat area at high elevation for the best results in an EV.

Conversion with round numbers for losses

Rotating energy- generate AC(-5%)- convert to DC (-5%)- enter battery cell(-5%)- exit battery cell(-5%) - convert to AC(-5%)- power AC Motor(-5%)- rotating energy

Now can you see whenever possible you should let the vehicle add speed rather than regen? When braking regen is great, but when going for the best range (hypermile) you don't brake.. Ever!
So the way I understand what you are saying is if you coast sometimes rather than regen all the time (One Pedal Driving) You might actually get better range (hypermile).
That being said It would be more efficient not to use one pedal driving and just use the regen paddle as a brake when possible?
 

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So the way I understand what you are saying is if you coast sometimes rather than regen all the time (One Pedal Driving) You might actually get better range (hypermile).
That being said It would be more efficient not to use one pedal driving and just use the regen paddle as a brake when possible?
The bottom line is if you must slow down quickly then regen is the most efficient , but if you can coast that is even more efficient because the energy does not go through that long conversion process from my last post.
 
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